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IMHO this property is insufficient for several reasons:
IMHO this property is insufficient for several reasons:
* the comment "The page number in (an edition of) a written work" is not quite clear:
* the comment "The page number in (an edition of) a written work" is not quite clear: does that mean "number of pages"?
  does that mean "number of pages"?
* range shouldn't be xsd:integer, e.g. consider the book [http://www.worldcat.org/title/relativity-the-special-theory/oclc/242174 Relativity : the special theory] that has "xiv, 459 pages"
* range shouldn't be xsd:integer, e.g. consider the book
[http://www.worldcat.org/title/relativity-the-special-theory/oclc/242174 Relativity : the special theory]
that has "xiv, 459 pages"
* cannot represent pagination of an article
* cannot represent pagination of an article


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* bibo:pageEnd "Ending page number within a continuous page range."
* bibo:pageEnd "Ending page number within a continuous page range."
* bibo:numPages "The number of pages contained in a document"
* bibo:numPages "The number of pages contained in a document"
--[[User:VladimirAlexiev|VladimirAlexiev]] 16:45, 22 December 2014 (UTC)


--[[User:VladimirAlexiev|VladimirAlexiev]] 16:45, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, you are right about the pageNumber property, I didn't give it too much thought and will change it to xsd:string. It is also useful to know, that as far as I know no page numbers are being extracted. In an internet encyclopedia, it is hardly likely that details of written works will be described at so minute a level (unless for indicating sources). However, I use the page numbers property for data to which the DBpedia ontology is serving as a reference model.
If we could incorporate the Bibo model, of course, I would welcome that.
--[[User:GerardKuys]]
 
I'm still not entirely clear about the purpose "The page number in (an edition of) a written work at which a thought or quote can be found": so is this a property of a thought/quote? Together with the Work that contains the quote?
 
Re BIBO: we could just use a BIBO property by making an OntologyProperty page with its name. (Modulo rdfs:domain, in case someone decides to load BIBO...)
--[[User:VladimirAlexiev|VladimirAlexiev]] 13:11, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 20:44, 16 January 2015

https://github.com/dbpedia/mappings-tracker/issues/10

IMHO this property is insufficient for several reasons:

  • the comment "The page number in (an edition of) a written work" is not quite clear: does that mean "number of pages"?
  • range shouldn't be xsd:integer, e.g. consider the book Relativity : the special theory that has "xiv, 459 pages"
  • cannot represent pagination of an article

Can't we just use the respective BIBO properties?

  • bibo:pages "A string of non-contiguous page spans that locate a Document within a Collection. Example: 23-25, 34, 54-56. For continuous page ranges, use the pageStart and pageEnd properties."
  • bibo:pageStart "Starting page number within a continuous page range."
  • bibo:pageEnd "Ending page number within a continuous page range."
  • bibo:numPages "The number of pages contained in a document"

--VladimirAlexiev 16:45, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, you are right about the pageNumber property, I didn't give it too much thought and will change it to xsd:string. It is also useful to know, that as far as I know no page numbers are being extracted. In an internet encyclopedia, it is hardly likely that details of written works will be described at so minute a level (unless for indicating sources). However, I use the page numbers property for data to which the DBpedia ontology is serving as a reference model. If we could incorporate the Bibo model, of course, I would welcome that. --User:GerardKuys

I'm still not entirely clear about the purpose "The page number in (an edition of) a written work at which a thought or quote can be found": so is this a property of a thought/quote? Together with the Work that contains the quote?

Re BIBO: we could just use a BIBO property by making an OntologyProperty page with its name. (Modulo rdfs:domain, in case someone decides to load BIBO...) --VladimirAlexiev 13:11, 23 December 2014 (UTC)